Dr. Monica Williams is an Emergency Physician and author of “It’s Ok to Die”. She has lectured and written extensively on transforming death and dying in Modern America. Dr. Williams’s goals for her end-of-life teachings are to trigger profound healing and growth for individuals and inspire more holistic support for institutions that serve the dying by establishing a dialogue around the exceptional states of consciousness that may occur at the end of life.

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  • Discussing the end of life – 3:16
  • Spreading joy around the idea of death – 3:55
  • How important is the end of life? – 5:42
  • Death is not failure – 7:06
  • Medicating patients at the end of life – 9:03
  • Educating other doctors – 11:10
  • The end of life phenomenon – 11:50
  • Having pre-death premonitions – 13:30
  • Most people die in hospices or facilities – 21:40
  • The last goodbye – 25:19
  • The shared death experience – 25:49
  • Post-death communication – 27:02
  • Encouraging people to share death phenomena experiences – 28:17
  • The shared crossing project – 28:43
  • Crossing to the other side – 30:48
  • Not being afraid of death – 34:53
  • Lisa reads some cards about death and why is a taboo – 36:12
  • The truth behind death is not scary – 38:35

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3 Responses to “The End Of Life And Pre-Death Premonitions With Dr. Monica Williams – Episode 78”

  1. Jenna

    I am so glad Lisa was able to interview Monica Williams. It is interesting to hear the perspective of someone in the health-care industry about the topic of death. As Monica says in the interview, since most people now die while in the care of health-care professions, it is important for health-care providers to talk about how death should be discussed and handled. It is wonderful how Monica says death should not be viewed as a failure. After all, the death rate of human beings is 100%. Some of the terminology we use when discussing illnesses, such as when we say someone is “courageously battling” cancer, probably are not especially helpful, because it makes it sound like the person has failed who ends up dying, implying that the person was not battling hard enough. It seems like even if someone is 100 years old when he or she dies, society still considers it a failure in some way when it happens, when it is actually an inevitable and natural part of life.

    It reminds me of how people act like it is a problem how there are so many people who die of illnesses such as heart attacks or cancer (or die of whatever other old age illness we are talking about) as if we don’t have to die of something eventually. I remember that someone said that life causes cancer, and if you live long enough, you will eventually end up with cancer. More people die of heart attacks and cancer now in technologically advanced societies, but that is because they live long enough to not die of something else first. There is a big difference between the leading causes of death in 1850 in the United States compared to the current leading causes of death. We still die, we just die of different illnesses than before because we currently tend to avoid the diseases that killed us before we were old enough to die of old age diseases. Because death has become so much of a medical thing, Monica is right that we tend to view death as a medical failure, when that is not an accurate way to perceive it.

    Monica sums up the idea of death in such a succinct way when she says that dying is a human event and not a medical event. That is one of the best points about this I have heard. For those of us who do not work in the health-care industry, illness and the dying process are often hidden away from us. It takes place in hospitals and health-care facilities where we don’t see it, unless we have a dying relative. But even then many aspects of the dying process are insulated from us. We sit in our cubes at work in front of a computer, and if we have dying relatives, a professional health-care worker in a hospital is taking care of them most of the time. From an economic point of view, specialization is a good thing in so many ways, but I think as far as the dying process goes it would be good for more of us to be involved with that, since dying is a universal human experience.

  2. Lynne Jacob

    I so love your statement near the end, Lisa … “Let’s talk about death.” My mind IMMEDIATELY started singing it (as my mind often does for 1-liners :-). So …

    Let’s talk about death, baby (sing it)
    Let’s talk about you and me (sing it, sing it)
    Let’s talk about all the good things
    And the bad things that may be
    Let’s talk about death (come on)
    Let’s talk about death (do it)
    Let’s talk about death (uh-huh)
    Let’s talk about death



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